Knowledge Center
Episode 229: Bridging Payers and Providers: Policy, Innovation, and Collaboration for the Future of Care
December 15, 2025
This episode, from our November National Conference, explores one of health care’s most persistent challenges: how hospitals and health plans can move from operating at cross-purposes to truly rowing in the same direction. Our guests are Danielle Lloyd, SVP of Private Market Innovations and Quality Initiatives, AHIP and Molly Smith, Group VP for Public Policy, American Hospital Association.
Led by moderator Stephan Rubin from Optum, Danielle and Molly dig into the misconceptions that providers and payers often hold about each other and discuss how better data transparency, shared incentives, and policy alignment — including recent CMS rules such as 0057F — can help bridge long-standing divides. The 3 examine the future of prior authorization, the promise and limits of interoperability initiatives like TEFCA and the CMS Aligned Network, and why value-based care still struggles to scale despite years of policy focus. Finally, they look ahead to the role of AI, automation, and emerging data standards in reshaping care delivery and payment, and ask what real payer-provider collaboration must look like to deliver a more seamless, efficient, and patient-centered health care system.
